Valve bodies hate it too, need to get everything at the same temperature. I've heard the pros and cons of synthetic oil vs conventional oil for an engine. Transmissions like warm oil. The glue that hold the friction material to the metal plates [clutches] is temperature sensitive, excess heat will allow the material to break down and flake off into the ATF [this is why it turns black] the high temps will oxidize the chemicals in ATF this is the brownish red burnt smell in ATF. And it is warmed by the engine in cold weather. Guess that's more than one word. Before selecting a transmission cooler, you need to know the GVWR for your particular car. At Mister Transmission we have access to leading-edge diagnostic equipment, enabling us to offer you the fastest and most accurate findings about what’s going on inside your vehicle’s transmission. Installing a transmission cooler is an extra precaution against overheating your transmission, and many people decide to use them in tow vehicles. Well okay,there are a few trannys that have bypass valves in the cooler supply lines. Needed a complete rebuild. Since 1963, Mister Transmission is the name Canadians trust to provide them with high-quality transmission repairs and expert service. The heat exchanger measures 11 inches wide x 12 inches tall x 7/8 inch deep. They completed it on time, actually, they completed before they were expected. Why would they do that if there was no benefit. I bought a '95 Safari van brand new and asked at the time whether a cooler would be a good investment. If your van has the towing package, which, in 2005, included a transmission cooler, the cooling should be adequate. Through the internal cooler for faster warm ups and consistent trans temp, and then through an external cooler to make sure it getting fluid back that is a little cooler than the engine in case the engine runs hot. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons! Thank you! A transmission cooler is not a substitute for transmission repair. It is placed right in front, not inside of the regular radiator. Really happy they were able to fix my issue on the same day. Advance Auto Parts carries universal fit transmission coolers. Be careful how you plumb a cooler too. But if you are so inclined to install a additional cooler, be sure to plumb it so it feeds the cooler in the radiator. Some but not many trannys have drains in the torque convertor, Some convertors hold as much as four to five quarts of oil. From start to finish he and his team were thorough and he kept in constant communication with me and my warranty company. Each year, hundreds of thousands of automatic transmissions fail and the majority of them are due to overheating of the fluid.  Most of this overheating is due to today’s vehicles being engineered with downsized engines and transmissions in an effort to maximize fuel economy.  We demand the same or better performance from these smaller, more efficient powertrains, therefore they must work harder than ever before. I've seen where some people do a haphazard plumbing job and put kinks in line, rubber hoses with sleazy clamps, use rubber lines that aren't rated for high pressure or oil, in other words, they do more harm than good. The fluid is still good and the van shifts smooth as glass. Transmission coolers come in many different shapes and sizes, and there are a few things to consider when choosing one. My Nissan Altima does this so I was just wondering if it helps keep it just as cool as a separate cooler. Clean and organized work shop inside too. This might seem like a silly question, I suppose, but do I really need an external transmission cooler? On your 1989 Ford F-250 you will need to check the size of your transmission cooler fittings on your radiator to get the correct fittings to work with your 5/16 inch cooler lines. This cooling radiator can likewise be connected to transmission oil, where towing and high anxiety can bring about harming temperatures. Cooler is OK but the real reason coolers are needed is that oil oxidizes at a high rate as peak temperatures approach 250 F. For every 15-20 degrees additional- oil life is cut in half. A stopped up or severely restricted cooler or cooler lines can do the same. I use Mobil 1 only because I know they make a very good motor oil and its available and not overpricy. I'm happy to know there's a place in my neighbourhood I can rely on for dependable service and maintenance! Tags: automatic transmission coolers, automatic transmissions, cooling systems, fluid coolers, transmission coolers If you are interested in having a transmission cooler installed in your vehicle, please contact your local Mister Transmission and book an appointment for our FREE 21-Point Multi-Check Inspection. Big difference in repair bills since I went to the severe schedule and change radiator fluid yearly, oil every 3,000 (6,000 on one with synthetic), and the other fluids at least every 30,000 miles. It looks like you're new here. Do I need a tranny cooler/radiator? When shopping around for your race car’s transmission cooler, there are items to consider such as cooling needs, cooler size, mounting location, and cooler line type. I'm not really familiar with synthetic transmission fluid. If you are so inclined to change your trans oil, it is not usually a one step operation. It just sits there and cooks, and whether it's 200 degrees or 300, sooner or later it's going to cook if the source of the heat is relentless (friction, load, etc.). Transmission Coolers help transmissions deal with the added stress and heat caused by towing boats, trailers and other heavy objects. That auto trans would run at 400 degrees if the oil could take it. Great customer service. When installing more than one cooler, its advised to put them in parallel with each other, This means one line from the transmission is split with a Y and one line run to each cooler then out of each and into a Y back to a single line running to the transmission. Back in the old days—way back in the old days—the radiator was the only part of a truck's drivetrain that owners needed to keep cool. Use both if you want. Any thoughts? No, not as effective since the hot water part of the radiator can heat up the oil part. First, thank God Dennis (aka Q45Man) chimed in here because his knowledge about extending transmission life (among other things) is incredible. The largest 4Runner community in the world. Friendly service. Rick . Six years and 65K and the tranny has not given one bit of trouble. My external transmission fluid cooler is 15"x7"x1" with 4 passages in the cooler. Installation is easy and the price is a bargain compared to the cost of a transmission rebuild. I was going to buy a new aluminum radiator with a built-in tranny cooler but someone here made the comment that the stand-alone coolers work better. In a transmission that is truly a scary proposition. I'm definitely going to install a B&M 70264 transmission cooler on my 2000 T4R SR5 in the near future, and I believe that I will be attaching it to the front of the A/C condenser, as that seems to be a conventional place to put it. The new cooler has standard push-on line fittings. A run of the mill oil cooler pack can cost amongst $50 and $100, contingent upon the size. (google it!) Our 1973 Ford F-350 was in need of a transmission cooler to protect it from future damage; a process that can be done to any automatic transmission. These lines are cut and 3/8- to ½-inch adaptor fittings are installed to mate with the new cooler input fitting size. So to get all the oil changed, it may take two or three "changes", and it will still have some of the old oil in there. Here in central Texas the temps run well into the triple digits on the freeways while you creep along. I have full confidence and trust in Mr. Unlike the engine, the transmission does not have the capability to regulate it's temperature, there is no thermostat. Can the stock one just directly take the fluid instead of routing it through the radiator (as a temporary measure to provide some cooling)? Only one poster in my memory, with a 2005 3.3l van, added an additional cooler. Thanks, Dave M. Bringing down the temperature of motor oil has many focal points, particularly in air-cooled engines. HEAT is the enemy of automatic transmissions. I decided to do a write up for the transmission cooler. It does not drain down when the motor is off. Just as you have other parts of your car serviced, your transmission needs maintenance to ensure a long life and avoid transmission problems. Yes, I think a transmission cooler, if it is designed properly, is a great idea for any car. It's a cruiser only, no hauling or racing. Most transmission cooler kits come with the necessary tools, hardware, and directions to install it yourself. It does so by cooling heated fluid that is sent through it by using the air flowing over the fins of the cooler. Basically, any cooler with a face height up to 18½ inches can be created. Ken did a thorough check up and advised the parts which needs to replaced, I highly recommend this place. If it's after the radiator cooler, you may lower to oil temp too much. Any oil can be overcome by heat because it cannot get rid of it. If there are similarly sized tube-and-fin coolers and plate-and-fin coolers, then the plate-and-fin cooler will perform better even if it is slightly smaller. lubricated machines fail because the oil failed. Highly recommend the staff and service commitment of Rico’s! The service manager whom is very knowlegeable said it best: "If it were mine, it would have one before the week was out". I'll bet it smelt burnt too. I'm running a 2000 RPM stall converter and 3.42 rear gears. If it's well engineered some temperature stabilization is provided for. I have a 350 with a TH400 in a '38 Ford Pickup. Overheated transmission fluid will break down causing seals to crack, moving parts to clash, and leaks to occur.  At Mister Transmission, we offer our own brand of high-quality transmission fluid coolers (also available at Canadian Tire) and the expertise to install them properly. Be leary of Pennzoil and Castrol-they play games with the word "synthetic". Due to the extra strain placed on today’s vehicles, automatic transmissions require a lot from a transmission fluid.  The fluid must lubricate the moving parts, clean the interior surfaces, protect against corrosion, transmit energy, and most of all, cool the transmission. Hi all! And of course, far cheaper. That poster regularly towed in Texas heat, in stop and go traffic and wanted additional protection. With franchises conveniently located coast-to-coast, Mister Transmission is the largest chain of transmission and driveline repair specialists in Canada. How much cooling do I need for a cast-iron PowerGlide and would a new aluminum radiator work well or would some kind of stand-alone work better. What brands of synthetic transmission fluid do you recommend? If your cooling sys is marginal, the internal cooler isn't going to help by adding more heat. Oil, without a cooler, is not a great cooling agent itself, just like water is not without an external radiator. Cold oil is tough to pump and apply bands or clutches. Amen. Do you need a transmission oil cooler? Yes, that's what I meant about good trans cooler design. But the Series 9 will have the most flow restriction (longest rows x fewest rows), and the Series 1 will have the least restriction (shortest rows x most rows). Can A Transmission Cooler Be Too Big? I know my particular transmission uses Dexon 3 fluid. Those are all very good points, thank you. Good people. Generally the worse the condition, the darker the fluid. Previous postings alluded to it but plain and clear the damage has been done already. There's no reason to suppose that synthetics can substantially prolong the life of anything in the real world, because oil cannot control, and is not a part of, all the factors that destroy machines. The first consideration would be the size of the cooler. Although GM recommends no service for a while yet, I will probably do an oil and filter on it this fall. Is Mercon 5 synthetic? One word. Phone: (800) 373-8432 The transmission burned up because the oil failed. changing the fluid. For the most part, the factory parts do well, many of the after market stuff is good but if you find the cheapest way out, you found something that isn't worth doing. When you go, they’re all studs, but ask for Keith and he’ll take care of you. The oil to water coolers are far more efficient than air to oil. Installing an External Cooler. Visit one of our locations. If a transmission gets hot enough, lubrication will fail no matter what I think. In most trucks, like our Chevrolet Silverado, you need only remove the grill to access it. And that was simple. Picked up a quart of transmission fluid, some hose clamps, and 3/8" inner diameter transmission hose from vatozone. Mr. More than likely when they go beyond their "acceptable heat range" they went beyond the acceptable heat range of the lubricant. Better than nothing, but not much. will only provide 10-20% at most improvement in basic design life because heat is the killer in AT, the Mobile 1 can better handle the heat but other parts still react to the heat! The steps listed below assume that you have peeled away the layers of your truck that are hiding the transmission cooler location. What size trans cooler do I need. You will want to measure to make sure you have clearance to install the heat exchanger. Depending on where you want to install it–the best places are the front of your radiator or in front of the air conditioning condenser–you will need the adhesive mounting pads, the mounting rods, or fasteners (whichever is included) to do so. On the other hand, there is a viscosity range where fluid friction, mechanical friction, and volumetric losses are optimal for hydraulic system performa… A good cooler can be had for less than fifty bucks and are very easy to install. When an automatic transmission’s temperature exceeds 200F, the transmission fluid is pushed to its limits. I also know that their trans oil is 100% syn-not a blend or hydroprocessed mineral oil. We have been sucessful in extending transmission life to the 175,000 plus range [on cars that normally failed at under 100,000 miles]by almost forcing the customer to do flushes and use premium fluids [we make the same profit on multiple flushes [say 5 plus cooler install] but the customer saves big on the transmission. 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