Option 1: Completly by pass the secure boot like the current release. And, for any of this to work, Ventoy would still need to independently solve the problem of allowing unsigned bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled @ventoy Openbsd is based. In the install program Ventoy2Disk.exe. But MediCat USB is already open-source, built upon the open-source Ventoy project. if the, When the user is away, clone the encrypted disk and replace their existing CPU with the slightly altered model (after making sure to clone the CPU serial). This iso seems to have some problem with UEFI. I'll test it on a real hardware a bit later. @steve6375 Okay thanks. It should be specially noted that, no matter USB drive or local disk, all the data will be lost after install Ventoy, please be very careful. E2B and grubfm\agFM legacy mode work OK in their default modes. First and foremost, disable legacy boot (AKA BIOS emulation). Yes. The program can be used to created bootable USB media from a variety of image formats, including ISO, WIM, IMG and VHD. 2. Open net installer iso using archive manager in Debian (pre-existing system). Now, if Microsoft finally relinquished their abusive policy about not accepting GPLv3 code for Secure Boot signing and Ventoy was updated not to allow unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled (i.e. You need to create a directory with name ventoy and put ventoy.json in this directory(that is \ventoy\ventoy.json). las particiones seran gpt, modo bios I don't remember exactly but it said something like it requires to install from an Installation media after the iso booted. You can use these commands to format it: Please follow the guid bellow. Please test and tell your opinion. Maybe I can get Ventoy's grub signed with MS key. So I apologise for that. After boot into the Ventoy main menu, pay attention to the lower left corner of the screen: 3. I'll try looking into the changelog on the deb package and see if Rename it as MemTest86_64.efi (or something similar). Hi, HDClone 9.0.11 ISO is stating on UEFI succesfully but on Legacy after choose "s" or "x64" to start hdclone it open's a black windows in front of the Ventoy Menu and noting happens more. your point) and you also want them to actually do their designated job, including letting you know, if you have Secure Boot enabled, when some third party UEFI boot loader didn't pass Secure Boot validation, even if that boot loader will only ever be run from someone who has to have physical access to your computer in the first place. I tested Manjaro ISO KDE X64. The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message: @pbatard Sorry, I should have explained my position clearer - I fully agree that the Secure Boot bypass Ventoy uses is not secure, and I'm not using Ventoy exactly because of it. Many thousands of people use Ventoy, the website has a list of tested ISOs. My guesd is it does not. privacy statement. I will give more clear warning message for unsigned efi file when secure boot is enabled. Option2: Use Ventoy's grub which is signed with MS key. Hello , Thank you very very much for your testings and reports. It's what Secure Boot is designed to do on account of being a trust chain mechanism that, when enabled, MUST alert if trust is broken. It should be specially noted that, no matter USB drive or local disk, all the data will be lost after install Ventoy, please be very careful. regular-cinnamon-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.1 GB, openSUSE-Tumbleweed-GNOME-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200326-Media.iso - 852MB Win10UEFI+GPTWin10UEFIWin7 Would MS sign boot code which can change memory/inject user files, write sectors, etc.? en_windows_10_business_editions_version_2004_updated_may_2020_x64_dvd_aa8db2cc.iso For these who select to bypass secure boot. Yes, at this point you have the same exact image as I have. If the ISO is on the tested list, then clearly it is a problem with your particular equipment, so you need to give the details. All the userspace applications don't need to be signed. memz.mp4. Boot net installer and install Debian. You can open the ISO in 7zip and look for yourself. Some Legacy BIOS has an access limitation and wont read a disk that exceeds the limitation. By default, the ISO partition can not be mounted after boot Linux (will show device busy when you mount). Option 1: doesn't support secure boot at all when the user Secure Boots via MokManager - even when booting signed efi files of Ubuntu or Windows? Thanks a lot. If you get some error screen instead of the above blue screen (for example, Linpus lite xxxx). Results when tested on different models\types of x86 computers - amount of RAM, make/model, latest BIOS? Even though I copied the Windows 10 ISO to flash drive, which presumably has a UEFI boot image on it, neither of my Vostros would recognize it. So if the ISO doesn't support UEFI mode itself, the boot will fail. Same issue with 1.0.09b1. Ventoy About File Checksum 1. Maybe we should just ask the user 'This file is not signed by Microsoft for 'Secure Boot' - do you still wish to boot from it?' Just some preliminary ideas. Secure Boot was supported from Ventoy 1.0.07, an option for secure boot is added in Ventoy2Disk.exe/Ventoy2Disk.sh. The same applies to OS/2, eComStation etc. When you run into problem when booting an image file, please make sure that the file is not corrupted. So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. plzz help. In a real use case, when you have several Linux distros (not all of which have Secure Boot support), several unsigned UEFI utilities, it's just easier to temporary disable Secure Boot with SUISBD method. Can't install Windows 7 ISO, no install media found ? Copy the efisys.bin from C: > Windows > Boot > DVD > EFI > en-US to your desktop 3. Now that Ventoy is installed on your USB drive, you can create a bootable USB drive by simply copying some ISO files onto the USB, no matter if they are Linux distribution ISOs or Windows 10 / 8 / 7 ISO files. Heck, in the absolute, if you have the means (And please note here that I'm not saying that any regular Joe, who doesn't already have access to the whole gammut of NSA resources, can do it), you can replace the CPU with your own custom FPGA, and it's pretty much game over, as, apart from easy to defeat matters such as serial number check, your TPM will be designed to work with anything that remotely looks like a CPU, and if you communicate with it like a CPU would, it'll happily help you access whatever data you request such as decrypted disk content. Now Rufus has achieved support for secure boot as now NTFS:UEFI Driver is signed for secure boot by Microsoft. That is the point. FFS I just spent hours reinstalling arch just to get this in the end archlinux-2021.06.01-x86_64.iso with Ventoy 1.0.47 boots for me on Lenovo IdeaPad 300 UEFI64 boot. 22H2 works on Ventoy 1.0.80. Some known process are as follows: ***> wrote: BUT with Ventoy 1.0.74 legacy boot from the same ISO I get a black square in centre of menu (USB LED is flashing so appears to load). Already have an account? By default, secure boot is enabled since version 1.0.76. boots, but kernel panic: did not find boot partitions; opens a debugger. *far hugh* -> Covid-19 *bg*. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. its existence because of the context of the error message. Unsigned bootloader Linux ISOs or ISOs without UEFI support does not boot with Secure Boot enabled. EDIT: No bootfile found for UEFI! That's because, if they did want to boot non Secure Boot enabled ones, they would disable Secure Boot themselves. My guess is it does not. UEFI Secure Boot (SB) is a verification mechanism for ensuring that code launched by a computer's UEFI firmware is trusted. I adsime that file-roller is not preserving boot parameters, use another iso creation tool. Ventoy is an open source tool to create a bootable USB drive for ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI files. Yes, I already understood my mistake. Paragon ExtFS for Windows And for good measure, clone that encrypted disk again. The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: tails-amd64-4.5.iso Legacy tested with VM I tested live GeckoLinux STATIC Plasma 152 (based on openSUSE) with ventoy-1.0.15. I made a larger MEMZ.img and that runs on Easy2Boot and grubfm in VBOX but it goes wrong booting via Ventoy for some reason. Official FAQ I have checked the official FAQ. la imagen iso,bin, etc debe ser de 64 bits sino no la reconoce Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20200526.n.0 - 1.95 GB, guix-system-install-1.1.0.x86_64-linux.iso - 550 MB, ipfire-2.25.x86_64-full-core143.iso - 280 MB, SpringdaleLinux-8.1-x86_64-netinst.iso - 580 MB, Acronis.True.Image.2020.v24.6.1.25700.Boot.CD.iso - 690 MB, O-O.BlueCon.Admin.17.0.7024.WinPE.iso - 480 MB, adelie-live-x86_64-1.0-rc1-20200202.iso - 140 MB, fhclive-USB-2019.02_kernel-4.4.178_amd64.iso - 450 MB, MiniTool.Partition.Wizard.Technician.WinPE.11.5.iso - 390 MB, AOMEI.Backupper.Technician.Plus.5.6.0_UEFI.iso - 380 MB, O-O.DiskImage.Professional.14.0.321.WinPE.iso - 380 MB, EaseUS.Data.Recovery.Wizard.WinPE.13.2.iso - 390 MB, Active.Boot.Disk.15.0.6.x64.WinPE.iso - 400 MB, Active.Data.Studio.15.0.0.Boot.Disk.x64.iso - 550 MB, EASEUS.Partition.Master.13.5.Technician.Edition.WinPE.x64.iso - 500 MB, Macrium_Reflect_Workstation_PE_v7.2.4797.iso - 280 MB, Paragon.Hard.Disk.Manager.Advanced.17.13.1.x64.WinPE.iso - 400 MB, Passware.Kit.Forensic.2017.1.1.Win.10-64bit.BootCD.iso - 350 MB, orel-2.12.22-26.12.2019_13.14.livecd.iso - 1.1 GB, rocksolid-signage-release-installer-1.13.4-1.iso - 1.3 GB, manjaro-kde-20.0-rc3-200422-linux56.iso - 3 GB, OpenStage-2020.03-xfce4-x86_64.iso - 1.70 GB, resilientlinux-installer-amd64-2.2.iso - 2.20 GB, virage-beowulf-3.0-x86-64-UEFI-20191110_1146.iso - 1.30 GB, BlackWeb-Unleashed.19.11-amd64.hybrid.iso - 3 GB, yunohost-stretch-3.6.4.6-amd64-stable.iso - 400 MB, OpenMandrivaLx.4.2-snapshot-plasma.x86_64.iso - 2.10 GB The best workaround is to install some Linux variant (I use Fedora but Ubuntu and SUSE are supported) and install VirtualBox. You are receiving this because you commented. If anyone has Secure Boot enabled, there should be no scenario where an unsigned bootloader gets executed without at least a big red warning, even if the user indicated that they were okay with that. After install, the 1st larger partition is empty, and no files or directories in it. The only thing that changed is that the " No bootfile found for UEFI!" But . But unless it exploits a Secure Boot vulnerability or limitation (or you get cozy with the folks controlling shim keys), that bootloader should require to be enrolled to pass Secure Boot validation, in the same manner as Ventoy does it. @ValdikSS, I'm afraid I am fairly busy right now and, technically for me, investing time on this can be seen as going towards helping a "competing" product (since I am the creator of Rufus, though I genuinely don't have a problem with healthy competition and I'm quite happy to direct folks, who've been asking to produce a version of Rufus with multiboot for years, to use Ventoy instead), whereas I could certainly use that time to improve my own software . The MEMZ virus nyan cat as an image file produces a very weird result, It also happens when running Ventoy in QEMU, The MEMZ virus nyan cat as an image file produces a very weird result privacy statement. Format Ext4 in Linux: sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 You need to make the ISO UEFI64 bootable. @ventoy I can confirm this, using the exact same iso. Will it boot fine? However, I'm not sure whether chainloading of shims are allowed, and how it would work if you try to load for example Ubuntu when you already have Fedora's shim loaded. Windows 7 32-bit does not support UEFI32 - you must use Win7 64-bit.. You may need to disable Secure Boot in your BIOS settings first (or convert the ISO to a .imgPTN23 file using the MPI Tool Kit). bionicpup64-8.0-uefi.iso Legacy+UEFI tested with VM, ZeroShell-3.9.3-X86.iso Legacy tested with VM, slax-64bit-9.11.0.iso Legacy tested with VM. Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi. However the solution is not perfect enough. I remember that @adrian15 tried to create a sets of fully trusted chainload chains to be used in Super GRUB2 Disk. can u test ? But I was actually talking about CorePlus. unsigned kernel still can not be booted. Try updating it and see if that fixes the issue. The latest version of the open source tool Ventoy supports an option to bypass the Windows 11 requirements check during installation of the operating system. puedes poner cualquier imagen en 32 o 64 bits backbox-7-desktop-amd64.iso - 2.47 GB, emmabuntus-de3-amd64-10.3-1.01.iso - 3.37 GB, pentoo-full-amd64-hardened-2019.2.iso - 4 GB Then congratulations: You have completely removed any benefits of using Secure Boot for any person who enrolled Ventoy on their Secure Boot computer. Thus, being able to check that an installer or boot loader wasn't tampered with is not a "nice bonus" but is something that must be enforced always in a Secure Boot enabled environment, regardless of the type of media you are booting from, because Secure Boot is very much designed to help users ensure that, when they install an OS, and provided that OS has a chain of trust that extends all the way, any alteration of any of the binary code that the OS executes, be it as part of the installation or when the OS is running, will be detected and reported to the user and prevent the altered binary code to run. preloader-for-ventoy-prerelease-1.0.40.zip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532, [issue]: Instead of dm-patch, consider a more secure and upstreamable solution that does not do kernel taint. Hiren does not have this so the tools will not work. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI" Tested below ISOs on HP ENVY x360- 13-ag0007au (1st-gen Ryzen Mobile convertible laptop, BIOS F.46 Rev.A) with Ventoy 1.0.08 final release in UEFI secure boot mode: Nice job and thanks a lot for this neat tool! ventoy_x64.efi/ventoy_util_x64.efi ) , they do need digital signatures. I'm not sure whether Ventoy should try to boot Linux kernel without any verification in this case (. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. I don't remember if the shortcut is ctrl i or ctrl r for grub mode. Any kind of solution? It should be the default of Ventoy, which is the point of this issue. If anyone has an issue - please state full and accurate details. puedes usar las particiones gpt o mbr. Menu Option-->Secure Boot Support for Ventoy2Disk.exe and -s option for Ventoy2Disk.sh And, unless you're going to stand behind every single Ventoy user to explain why you think it shouldn't matter that Ventoy will let any unsigned bootloader through, that's just not going to fly. If you use the Linux kernel's EFI stub loader or ELILO, you may need to store your kernel on the ESP, so creating an ESP on the large end of the scale is advisable. You don't need anything special to create a UEFI bootable Arch USB. | 5 GB, void-live-x86_64-20191109-xfce.iso | 780 MB, refracta10-beta5_xfce_amd64-20200518_0033.iso | 800 MB, devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso | 1.10 GB, drbl-live-xfce-2.6.2-1-amd64.iso | 800 MB, kali-linux-2020-W23-live-amd64.iso | 2.88 GB, blackarch-linux-live-2020.06.01-x86_64.iso | 14 GB, cucumber-linux-1.1-x86_64-basic.iso | 630 MB, BlankOn-11.0.1-desktop-amd64.iso | 1.8 GB, openmamba-livecd-en-snapshot-20200614.x86_64.iso | 1.9 GB, sol-11_3-text-x86.iso | 600 MB all give ERROR on HP Laptop : Say, we disabled validation policy circumvention and Secure Boot works as it should. It means that the secure boot solution doesn't work with your machine, so you need to turn off the option, and disable secure boot in the BIOS. always used Archive Manager to do this and have never had an issue. So, Fedora has shim that loads only Fedoras files. Probably you didn't delete the file completely but to the recycle bin. they reviewed all the source code). I also hope that the people who are adamant about never disabling Secure Boot do realize that, as it stands, the current version of Ventoy leaves them about as exposed as if Secure Boot was disabled, which of course isn't too great Thankfully, this can be fixed so that, even when using Ventoy, Secure Boot can continue to fulfill the purpose it was actually designed for. The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Please test this ISO file with VirtualMachine(e.g. Single x64 ISO - OK - Works and install.esd found by Setup - all Editions listed Dual 32+64 ISO - FAIL - Did not find install.esd file (either 64 or 32) \x64\sources\ and \x32\sources in ISO UEFI64 Boot: Single x64 ISO - FAIL - 'No boot file found by UEFI' ' Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI!' Keep reading to find out how to do this. @pbatard Correct me if I'm wrong, but even with physical access, the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? Latest Laptop UEFI 64+SECURE BOOT ON Blocked message. what is the working solution? Topics in this forum are automatically closed 6 months after creation. I can 3 options and option 3 is the default. I have absolutely no problem with letting the user choose if they want to run a bootloader that failed Secure Boot validation, and I think this might be the better way to do it indeed. The only way to prevent misuse when booting from USB is to set a BIOS password (and perhaps a boot password), set the BIOS to not boot from USB and it won't hurt to also use an encrypted filesystem for the OS on the hard disk (bitlocker/LUKS). Attached Files Thumbnail (s) Find Reply Steve2926 Senior Member When Secure Boot is enabled, BIOS boot (CSM) should not work at all, since it would completely defeat the purpose of only allowing signed executables to boot. Questions about Grub, UEFI,the liveCD and the installer. pentoo-full-amd64-hardened-2020.0_p20200527.iso - 4 GB, avg_arl_cdi_all_120_160420a12074.iso - 178 MB, Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20200419.n.0.iso - 1.80 GB I can confirm it was the reason for some ISOs to not boot (ChimeraOS, Manjaro Gnome). Will these functions in Ventoy be disabled if Secure Boot is detected? etc. @pbatard, if that's what what your concern, that could be easily fixed by deleting grubia32.efi and grubx64.efi in /EFI/BOOT, and renaming grubia32_real.efi grubia32.efi, grubx64_real.efi grubx64.efi. Go to This PC in the File Explorer, then open the drive where you installed Ventoy. https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm64/aarch64/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/FreeBSD-13.1-RELEASE-arm64-aarch64-disc1.iso. accomodate this. Please refer: About Fuzzy Screen When Booting Window/WinPE. So, this is debatable. @BxOxSxS Please test these ISO files in Virtual Machine (e.g. You can't just convert things to an ISO and expect them to be bootable! It's a pain in the ass to do yes, but I wouldn't qualify it as very hard. Select the images files you want to back up on the USB drive and copy them. Linux distributives use Shim loader, each distro with it's own embedded certificate unique for each distro. Main Edition Support. Already on GitHub? Shim itself is signed with Microsoft key. However, Ventoy can be affected by anti-virus software and protection programs. This will disable validation policy override, making Secure Book work as desired: it will load only signed files (+ files signed with SHIM MOK key). Ctrl+i to change boot mode of some ISOs to be more compatible Ctrl+w to use wimboot to boot Windows and WinPE ISOs (e.g. So I don't really see how that could be used to solve the specific problem we are being faced with here, because, however you plan to use UEFI:NTFS when Secure Boot is enabled, your target (be it Ventoy or something else) must be Secure Boot signed. Download ventoy-delete-key-1..iso and copy it to the Ventoy USB drive. For these who select to bypass secure boot. Yep, the Rescuezilla v2.4 thing is not a problem with Ventoy. to be used in Super GRUB2 Disk. Please refer When Ventoy2Disk.exe Failed to Install, Please refer When Ventoy2Disk.exe Fail to Update, Yes. Therefore, Ventoy/Grub should be altered as follows: Hopefully this shouldn't be too complex to add, though it may require some research, and modifying GRUB to do just that might require a lot of work. If Ventoy was intended to be used from an internal hard disk, I would agree with you, but Ventoy is a USB-based multiboot solution and therefore the user must have physical access to the system, so it is the users responsibility to be careful about what he inserts into that USB port. Vmware) with UEFI mode and to confirm that the ISO file does support UEFI mode. VMware or VirtualBox) ventoy.json should be placed at the 1st partition which has the larger capacity (The partition to store ISO files). 7. Only in 2019 the signature validation was enforced. There are many kinds of WinPE. fdisk: Create a primary partition with partition type EFI (FAT-12/16/32). Just found that MEMZ.iso from https://mega.nz/folder/TI8ECBKY#i89YUsA0rCJp9kTClz3VlA works, file: Windows XP.ver.SP3.English The idea that Ventoy users "should know what they are getting into" or that "it's pointless to check UEFI bootloaders for Secure Boot" once Ventoy has been enrolled is disingenuous at best. 2. Ventoy supports ISO, WIM, IMG, VHD(x), EFI files using an exFAT filesystem. No! Sign in Passware Kit Forensic , on Legacy mode booting successfully but on UEFI returns to Ventoy. Oh and obviously, once that is done, Ventoy will need to make sure that it's not possible to run an older versions of it, in a Secure Boot environment where a newer version has been enrolled, as it would still defeat the whole thing. I would assert that, when Secure Boot is enabled, every single time an unsigned bootloader is loaded, a warning message should be displayed. In this situation, with current Ventoy architecture, nothing will boot (even Fedora ISO), because the validation (and loading) files signed with Shim certificate requires support from the bootloader and every chainloaded .efi file (it uses custom protocol, regular EFI functions can't be used. Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. Still having issues? When user whitelist Venoy that means they trust Ventoy (e.g. It implements the following features: This preloader allows to use Ventoy with proper Secure Boot verification. However, after adding firmware packages Ventoy complains Bootfile not found.

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